Re: 2.5 SATA mechanical drive
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:03 pm
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simonelombardo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:03 pm (pics are a little too tiny to be readable, you could copy and paste directly an image url and it should be resolved by the forum plugins)
UASP is just the protocol mode that USB to SATA controller is working due to the accelerated USB3 connection while the other seems already built in with a USB interface directly in the drive, so it's excepted to have this kind of difference detected by CrystalDiskInfo.
https://www.seagate.com/files/staticfil ... 98035c.pdf
Your findings are interesting and gave actually an hint! By the product manual, the drive uses 850ma (4.4W) due to having four heads, two platters and technology era. A typical SSD drive is much lower than that.
Low power USB3 port current limit should be 900mA (4,5W) so, if powering USB to SATA interface takes more than 50mA on its own, the flowing current is not enough for spinning the disk motor. Is the SATA to USB interface on desktop connected to an high power USB3 port?
Using the disk with already bundled USB interface instead, there is no additional overhead and it is under the 900mA ceiling.
So... maybe the internal JST plug on the motherboard is just connected to a USB3 host line (just like the Raspberries do), so instead to deliver 1.5A as the standard SATA plug, it delivers also max 900mA. It could be verified easily by tracing the contacts on the mobo or a load test...
If it is the case, a 1Tb disk like the MQ04ABF (https://toshiba-semicon-storage.com/con ... Manual.pdf) with 1 platter, two heads, tops on 638 mA (3,3W), it could work.
(but more the time passes, more I think it's just an overpriced dev board we just paid...)
I'm learning a lot,simonelombardo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:48 am Is the 250 Gb Seagate disk a ST9250315AS(G) or another model (SATA 1 disk)?
If it is...
https://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/sup ... 28359d.pdf
"Startup current, +5V max" entry says 1A when a +5V (5W then) line is provided. This disk model could make use also to 12V using less amperage - so requiring just that 420 mA (5 W / 12V) you cited - and 3.3V for power saving....but USB3 / bridged SATA / laptop-kinda SATA just delivers the +5V line. As far as I knowm only very recent hard disks uses less than 900mA on 5V for starting the spin process.
The AS400 Kingston SSD: https://www.kingston.com/datasheets/SA400S37_us.pdf tops on 1.535W having so max around 307 mA.
Single USB2 port as standard should have topped at 500mA so basically no mechnical disks could be used. But usually modern desktop EHCI (USB 2.0) host controller has a little bit more ampere tollerance before shutting down the port for oversurge or it's routing to the power supply +5V line. Have you tried to connect the 250Gb disk (if that 5W model) on the SATA to USB controller to a USB 2.0 port?