need some help to understand the correct display configuration

[maxxam80]

Hi there,
i have recently bought the M2A with rtx 3080 gpu on board and after some struggling to update the GPU NVidia driver i found something "strange".
just to clarify: i've followed the tutorial found on this forum. downloaded the correct drivers from nvidia ( in my case the "notebook" one in the filename ). copied the origin directory and modified the inf files with the correct strings.
the installation was successful without any errors but looking on both Nvidia Control Panel and the Windows OS Display Properties, seems that the monitors are plugged into the Iris Xe Card instead the Nvidia one.

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is it "normal"?
or it is related to my "custom installation" ?

also...is it normal that Nvidia Control Panel doesn't have the "DISPLAY" section ?

Thanks for your support

Regards

[dragonpoo]

We've had a few users post here, about how they tried download drivers directly from NVIDIA, and they had issues. I believe the recommendation is to get them directly from the PC manufacturer, and avoid using the drivers from the video company, as generic drivers don't always work.

[maxxam80]

We've had a few users post here, about how they tried download drivers directly from NVIDIA, and they had issues. I believe the recommendation is to get them directly from the PC manufacturer, and avoid using the drivers from the video company, as generic drivers don't always work.

sorry but i don't get it:
Nvidia Drivers are not generic but specifc for type of GPU and model ( Desktop, Laptop)
the reccomendation is to NOT use the Nvidia drivers ( actually at version 566.14 ), that are constantly updated, and to use the "unsigned" one from the manufacturer that are actually stucked at version 555.85 if i'm not wrong.

does it even makes sense ?

just for example:
The Corsair iCue app ( needed for Corsair devices ) had an issue with the previous version of NVidia drivers ( a lot of CPU usage ) that has been resolved in the actual version. Following this advice: i have to keep the issue untill the manufacturer updates the drivers?

this is a stupid example but try to apply it to a software that you use for your job...

Not a criticism but I would have liked to have known about these "incompatibilities" before spending 1k euros

btw thanks a lot for your answer!

[Gabe]

We've had a few users post here, about how they tried download drivers directly from NVIDIA, and they had issues. I believe the recommendation is to get them directly from the PC manufacturer, and avoid using the drivers from the video company, as generic drivers don't always work.

sorry but i don't get it:
Nvidia Drivers are not generic but specifc for type of GPU and model ( Desktop, Laptop)
the reccomendation is to NOT use the Nvidia drivers ( actually at version 566.14 ), that are constantly updated, and to use the "unsigned" one from the manufacturer that are actually stucked at version 555.85 if i'm not wrong.

does it even makes sense ?

Yes, it does, because the drivers used may be specifically tailored by the manufacturer to work with the unit in question, while the driver from the GPU manufacturer isn't. Drivers from Nvidia are for the specific GPU, but not the specific system the GPU is being used with, hence the 'generic' term. Most of the time those generic drivers work just fine, but not always. It's one of the reasons Windows includes a driver rollback feature.

[maxxam80]

We've had a few users post here, about how they tried download drivers directly from NVIDIA, and they had issues. I believe the recommendation is to get them directly from the PC manufacturer, and avoid using the drivers from the video company, as generic drivers don't always work.

sorry but i don't get it:
Nvidia Drivers are not generic but specifc for type of GPU and model ( Desktop, Laptop)
the reccomendation is to NOT use the Nvidia drivers ( actually at version 566.14 ), that are constantly updated, and to use the "unsigned" one from the manufacturer that are actually stucked at version 555.85 if i'm not wrong.

does it even makes sense ?

Yes, it does, because the drivers used may be specifically tailored by the manufacturer to work with the unit in question, while the driver from the GPU manufacturer isn't. Drivers from Nvidia are for the specific GPU, but not the specific system the GPU is being used with, hence the 'generic' term. Most of the time those generic drivers work just fine, but not always. It's one of the reasons Windows includes a driver rollback feature.

I don't want to create controversy but I don't agree with what you write. ( as we should go into specifics about the definition of "driver" )
but assuming you're right,it doesn't justify the fact that it had to be stated that it is not compatible with the manufacturer's native drivers ( and for me... continue to doesn't make any sense at all )

beyond this topic ... do you have any info about my topic question? i mean
is it correct that both my monitors are connected to the Iris Xe card ?

EDIT:
seems that this is the "normal" situation
looking on a friend's laptop with an RTX GPU appear the same configuration

Thanks to all for your support

[dragonpoo]

Hey maxxam80, just to confirm, it sounds like things are okay now?

[maxxam80]

Hey maxxam80, just to confirm, it sounds like things are okay now?

Hi dragonpoo!
let's say:
i've managed to install manufacturer's native drivers without errors and tested ( i've tried the "classic" Benchmark softwares and some games like Rust, GTA5 ecc ecc ) and seems to run smootly ( obviously taking into account the limitations of the GPU )

I still can't figure out why some sections are missing in the nvidia control panel menu but i'm working on it
( and also I want to try to update the GPU vbios as this site:
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/232 ... 384-210112
appears to have a more updated version but i need first to extract data from the actual one )

i'll let you know

OOT Question: I was reading in the "announcements" section and it seems really strange that all the users who responded to that thread only have 1 active post and they were all created a few days before the thread itself. is this normal?

Regards

[dragonpoo]

i've managed to install manufacturer's native drivers without errors and tested ( i've tried the "classic" Benchmark softwares and some games like Rust, GTA5 ecc ecc ) and seems to run smootly ( obviously taking into account the limitations of the GPU )

I still can't figure out why some sections are missing in the nvidia control panel menu but i'm working on it
( and also I want to try to update the GPU vbios as this site:
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/232 ... 384-210112
appears to have a more updated version but i need first to extract data from the actual one )

i'll let you know

Personally, I would advise you to not install a GPU bios update like that, for multiple reasons. First, that link is a 2021 build date, and the M2A system was released more recently than that. Second, I won't claim techpowerup is a bad site, but it's not an official site like NVIDIA or the hardware manufacturer's direct link. Third, even if the file was valid, it's probably generic and not specific to the GPU in the system, and could cause issues (including hardware failure).
And lastly, is there a specific fix you're looking to get by installing this file? I used to love installing "day one updates" as soon as they are released, but I've been burned enough by new app updates, OS patches, and hardware drivers that break more than they fix, that I try to avoid patching just because something is new. If there's a specific problem you're trying to resolve, then post about it or contact tech support to let them know, and they should be able to release an update to address it.

OOT Question: I was reading in the "announcements" section and it seems really strange that all the users who responded to that thread only have 1 active post and they were all created a few days before the thread itself. is this normal?

I couldn't specifically find the Announcements page you meant, to see why newbies were posting... But, sadly, yes; the admins do a decent job at moderating the forums and dealing with spam or junk users, but there's plenty of "never posted before" users who jump at announcements, offers, or ask random questions here. There's a number of good users, too!

(also, unrelated, I don't know why my post says quote=maxxam80 yet the preview only shows your name as max80 or xxam80. I think it's the auto-translate that happens here.)

[Gabe]

(also, unrelated, I don't know why my post says quote=maxxam80 yet the preview only shows your name as max80 or xxam80. I think it's the auto-translate that happens here.)

The auto translate seems to have a mind of its own, often translating things that shouldn't be, and in weird ways. I'm still trying to figure out in what language my name means "without".

[dragonpoo]

The auto translate seems to have a mind of its own, often translating things that shouldn't be, and in weird ways. I'm still trying to figure out in what language my name means "without".

According to Bing, "The word "gabe" translates to "without" in the language of Middle English. In modern English, "gabe" is not a common word, and the direct translation would be "without"."