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Can you upgrade RAM from 16 to 32
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Re: RAM upgrade

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S1 (N95) (N97) supports up to 16GB of memory.
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Re: RAM upgrade up to 32 GB verified

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According to Intel Ark N97 supports 16 GB of RAM (“dependent on memory type”):
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... 0-ghz.html

Additionally, you may find an explanation at the intel community:
“"Depending on Type" -- as in DDR3 vs. DDR4 motherboard implementations, for example.
Intel provides a standard design for memory subsystem and this is the maximum memory supported by it. Now, this is based upon the capabilities of the Memory Reference Code (MRC) that was then available for inclusion in the BIOS. If later versions of the MRC might happen to support more memory (by, for example, supporting 8Gb memory technology instead of only the 4Gb supported previously, etc.), then more memory ~could~ be supported.”


My conclusion was that it must be verified for a specific mainboard and a system like S1 (N97), and maybe also for a specific memory module.
Because we are posting at an official manufacturer’s support forum the admin staff might not state differently from Intel Ark, and operating a mini pc out of its specification might violate the manufacturer’s warranty.

Hence following my post is at each user’s own risk.

What I’ve verified today:
1. My S1 (N97) runs flawlessly using a “Crucial CT32G4SFD832A 32GB DDR4 module”.
2. Windows 11 Pro 26080.1201
3. All Windows 11 menus show applicable 32 GB (i.e. 31.8 GB) memory
4. The Windows 11 memory test (running as a pre-OS app) finds no error.

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Thank you very much for sharing your information.

According to the information on Intel's official website, Intel processor N97, Max Memory Size: 16GB.
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TVHD, thanks for testing 32GB of RAM. I know Intel's official docs claim only 16GB is supported, but we've seen many times where people can go beyond the officially tested limits of computing.

I'm sure 32GB of ram in an S1 would make it a pretty powerful little system!
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Re: RAM upgrade and overRAMing

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dragonpoo,

Your signature lists some systems that come with 8GB of RAM.

I had my first contact with the phenomenon called "overRAMing" through a J4105-DDR4-MiniPC:
Intel states a max. of 8GB RAM, but I was able to confirm that 16GB RAM was fully operational.

The Intel community offers an explanation:
https://community.intel.com/t5/Processo ... d-p/704365

I fully agree with your statement that overRAMing (depending on the application of course) could turn several types of MiniPCs into "a pretty powerful little system"!
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TVHD wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 4:33 pmdragonpoo, Your signature lists some systems that come with 8GB of RAM.
I'll admit, I've considered upgrading some of my systems to have more RAM. But, not all systems can handle an upgrade, with soldered RAM in place. Then, which would I do? The AMR5 would support it, and you've shown the S1 can handle it as well, but I have to balance cost versus usefulness. Most of my systems are tiny enough to handle one purpose only, like the one running Linux to access my Android tablets, the one running opnsense as a firewall/router, and the one I use to rip/convert movies.

My homelab runs on an older Dell tower with 96GB of memory, which is sufficient for most tests. I've wondered if a little farm of S1s with 32GB of RAM would be useful. Fun to set up? Sure!
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Re: RAM upgrade

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dragonpoo wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 10:44 pm
TVHD wrote: Sat May 04, 2024 4:33 pmdragonpoo, Your signature lists some systems that come with 8GB of RAM.
My homelab runs on an older Dell tower with 96GB of memory, which is sufficient for most tests. I've wondered if a little farm of S1s with 32GB of RAM would be useful. Fun to set up? Sure!
Those dual ethernet ports just make me want to cluster two of them together using one interface as a private link :D
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Re: RAM upgrade

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I have tested Crucial DDR4 32GB CT32G4SFD832A and works fine on first boot after install, but after windows shutdown not power on. Blank screen.
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Re: RAM upgrade

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Ram 32 Gb

This memory works wonderfully, no problems N95. You don't have to set anything in the BIOS either.
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